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		<title>Update on Chipping Sodbury</title>
		<link>http://www.agco.org.uk/2012/05/update-on-chipping-sodbury/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 13:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vivien Saunders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Vivien Saunders and your AGCO committee There is much confusion about the Chipping Sodbury Case, what it involves and how it benefits proprietary clubs. Bear with me – it’s more than the back of a fag packet! The underlying principle Many years ago, in the days when the AA had men on motorbikes saluting [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>From Vivien Saunders and your AGCO committee<br />
</strong>There is much confusion about the Chipping Sodbury Case, what it involves and how it benefits proprietary clubs. Bear with me – it’s more than the back of a fag packet!</p>
<p><strong>The underlying principle</strong><br />
Many years ago, in the days when the AA had men on motorbikes saluting at the members, they charged a membership fee. It was standard rated for VAT. Then a clever person realised that much of that sub was for the handbook, keys to the AA box and so on. The handbook, as all books, should have been zero rated. So the sub should not have been standard rated in total. It was apportioned.</p>
<p><strong>Now for golf ….<br />
</strong>Before 1990 there was no VAT exemption for sports. Those were the good old days before distortion. So it can be argued that the golf subscription to all golf clubs had an element which should not have been standard rated. The diary, competitions, room hire – several things. The Chipping Sodbury case is trying to argue that point and get a refund of VAT for the members’ clubs.  Steady – keep reading. It is also trying to get a refund for proprietary clubs which were alive and kicking then – possibly only if still in the same ownership and having made a claim. (That I don’t know.) Yes, there were some of us alive and kicking then – Abbotsley, Aldenham, Foxhills, Frilford Heath, Kingswood,  Leatherhead, Pachesham and, of course, Wentworth and Woburn – plus many others.</p>
<p>I gather that four members’ clubs have already had refunds for the pre-1990 period and the allowance came out at 45.78%. My reliable mole tells me that the members’ clubs that have made a claim (and perhaps any proprietary ones in the loop) are looking for something like £70,000 each in repaid VAT – plus some interest. Perhaps we are talking about £100,000 apiece.</p>
<p><strong>Now to 1990 ….. and distortion<br />
</strong>Fade out the members’ clubs. They now have their VAT exemption – God Bless them – and so apportionment is of no consequence.</p>
<p>The Chipping Sodbury Case is dealing with two aspects of the post-1990 disaster. One is the claim that there is such distortion that it has to be tackled. I have it reliably from Fred Cowgill that this is very much part of the claim. His message, “Yes, it [the claim] asks the tribunal to confirm there is distortion and therefore the  proprietary clubs are due money back.”</p>
<p>The Government knows there is distortion and somehow it has to be stopped. The problem is that on the face of it the European Union legislation does not allow VAT exemption for sport at proprietary clubs. (But steady on chaps! I have found three clubs that are clearly proprietary getting the exemption. No scheme, no scam; just saying they are non-profitmaking. A couple of plc’s and a shareholding company with diverse shareholders.) The Government clearly does not want to remove the VAT exemption; it would sound horrendous!  So one part of the case is tackling that distortion. Andrew Sutcliffe, PGA pro and owner of Tickenham,  has put in a witness statement giving his evidence on distortion. Andrew has been on this case, as I have, since 1993. Andrew and I met his constituency MP, Liam Fox, in Bristol to put him in the picture.</p>
<p>I have put in a witness statement in my capacity as Chairman of AGCO, and on behalf of Trent Lock, Mendip Springs and my own club, Cambridge Meridian, reciting the industry wide problem. It recites chapter and verse on all the distortion issues, with a lever arch file full of evidence. Some member-owned clubs might not like what I have to say about their trading activities! It explains all the anomalies and the similarity of the membership experience at member-owned and proprietary clubs. I will email it out nearer the time, but probably need witness protection!</p>
<p><strong>And now for the apportionment issue …<br />
</strong>The distortion issue will hopefully sort things out for the future but might not get us compensation for the past. Who knows? If the claim for apportioning the subscriptions is successful, pay backs could be substantial. One of the lead clubs in the case is Trent Lock in Nottinghamshire. Their owner, Ed McCausland,  has spent days and weeks, aided and abetted by Paul Laibach of the VAT Back Partnership, going into every item of the club’s expenditure and activities to ascertain what might be exempt, zero rated etc. It isn’t just about the odd club diaries, but goes right to the heart of what a member of a golf club gets for his subscription – the competitions, certain prizes, newsletters, diaries, elements of buggy hire, room hire. This is not dependent on the sporting exemption. Remember the AA  &#8211; the little man on the motorbike saluting taxed one way, and the handbook the other way. It is technical, boring and requires plenty of detail. Paul Laibach specialises in just that subject – apportionment. He and I had an enthralling four hour chin wag over cups of tea, coffee and glasses of red wine hammering it out. There is something in this for every club. Remember, it is the way of claiming a proportion of your VAT back from the 1970’s to the present date. Claims can be quite substantial. And it is the safety net for the future  if we don’t manage to stamp out the distortion.</p>
<p><strong>Where did the money go?<br />
</strong>Our team of detectives have tried to trace the money sent to Vatability and to the English Golf Union. Sadly no one seems able to give a sensible answer to this. Fees, donations, no-win, no-fee! David Croxton, our one proprietor on England Golf, might be able to trace it. All I do know is that the whole proprietary golf club industry does need to help give this case its best shot. We have been trying to get the issue of distortion into a VAT tribunal since 1993. Now at last we will hopefully get the decision we want.</p>
<p>AGCO and the UK Golf Course Owners’ Association are trying to raise funds for eminent tax barrister, Michael Sherry, to represent us at the Manchester Tribunal at the end of May. If we can raise the fees he will be arguing the apportionment case, which will benefit all golf clubs, and the distortion issue on behalf of proprietors. Please contribute what you can to his fees by contacting me at AGCO.</p>
<p>Several of your fellow AGCO proprietors have been working long and hard on this issue, gathering evidence and attending meetings, all as volunteers and at their own expense.</p>
<p><em>Vivien Saunders</em></p>
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		<title>Dear Sue &#8211; kindly tell England Golf that they should not be competing against professionals at their own golf clubs&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.agco.org.uk/2012/04/dear-sue-kindly-tell-england-golf-that-they-should-not-be-competing-against-professionals-at-their-own-golf-clubs/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vivien Saunders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Email to Vivien Saunders from the EWGA: To: Ladies’ Club Delegates EWGA have placed a substantial amount of new Daily Sport golf clothing on the eBay site at drastically reduced prices.  The clothing is from the Daily Sports’ 2011 range, ordered for our European teams, and each item has the original packaging and tags. Response [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Email to Vivien Saunders from the EWGA:</p>
<blockquote><p>To: Ladies’ Club Delegates<br />
EWGA have placed a substantial amount of new Daily Sport golf clothing on the eBay site at drastically reduced prices.  The clothing is from the Daily Sports’ 2011 range, ordered for our European teams, and each item has the original packaging and tags.</p></blockquote>
<p>Response from Vivien Saunders:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dear Sue &#8211; kindly tell England Golf that they should not be competing against professionals at their own golf clubs. This is what we are up against. A governing body which is totally out of touch and has done more harm than good for golf. This is ridiculous. Golf Clubs have their own professionals or their own shops. Why on earth do we want to send affiliation fees to this disastrous bunch to have them compete with us. Why should we collect money from the club. Please express my concern to the England Golf person responsible for this. I am copying it to the members of the Association of Golf course Owners and I am sure many of them will protest. When women golfers complain that their professionals don&#8217;t stock ladies clothes here is the answer! I hope some of the Cambridgeshire secretaries will complain. England Golf has lost the plot of what they should be doing. Please can you email Helen or Chris on any England Golf communications before sending them to the members.<br />
Thanks</p>
<p>Viv</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Landmark VAT green fee ruling for clubs</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vivien Saunders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[22nd March, 2012 by Alistair Dunsmuir A British private members’ golf club has been paid £5,000 after it won a landmark VAT ruling that could result in non-profit making clubs restructuring their membership offerings. The verdict is potentially so far reaching that one club manager believes it could even kill off proprietary golf clubs. HM [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>22nd March, 2012 by Alistair Dunsmuir</p>
<p>A British private members’ golf club has been paid £5,000 after it won a landmark VAT ruling that could result in non-profit making clubs restructuring their membership offerings. The verdict is potentially so far reaching that one club manager believes it could even kill off proprietary golf clubs.</p>
<p>HM Revenue &amp; Customs (HMRC) has accepted that Didsbury Golf Club overpaid VAT over nearly three years on green fees that associate members purchased.</p>
<p>In 2009 the club set up the flexible / associate membership scheme in which golfers paid just £65 to join the club and then paid discounted green fees whenever they wanted to play a round of golf.</p>
<p>Non-profit making private members’ clubs currently pay no VAT on members’ subscriptions, but do pay VAT on green fees, albeit this may be changed at a legal hearing later this year.</p>
<p>Last year Didsbury appointed a team of accountants to challenge the VAT it had charged on the green fees its associate members had bought. They stated that, according to the Value Added Tax Act 1994, VAT should only be levied to ‘an individual who is not a member’ of a sports’ club when they purchase green fees.</p>
<p>HMRC has now accepted the challenge. “From March 2009 Didsbury introduced an annual associate membership classification in which members pay an annual membership fee and then additional fees each time they use the course,” said its spokesman Trevor Probert.</p>
<p>“Both sets of fees incurred by the associate members qualify for exemption from VAT under the VAT Act 1994. The annual fee has been correctly treated as exempt but the course fee element has been incorrectly treated as VAT inclusive.”</p>
<p>Brian Birt, a senior manager at PKF, the accountancy firm that Didsbury used to win the case, believes the ruling could have a major impact on the membership packages private members’ golf clubs will offer.</p>
<p>“Non-profit making clubs that don’t have these flexible or associate membership schemes should consider setting one up as there are clear financial benefits in doing so, such as the exemption of VAT on green fees,” he said.</p>
<p>“And clubs that have been operating these schemes but have paid VAT on the green fees can now claim for the VAT they have spent. We would advise these clubs to make a specific request to HMRC on an individual basis.”</p>
<p>Last year Bridport &amp; West Dorset Golf Club won a case against HMRC to claim back the VAT it had spent on green fees for non-members of the golf club, but HMRC appealed the decision, which is due to be heard this July. If the appeal is unsuccessful then private members’ clubs will be able to claim back four years of VAT paid on all green fees. However, even if the appeal wins, private clubs now know they can set up a scheme that makes them exempt from paying VAT on green fees.</p>
<p>“This issue differs from the litigation in that case,” said Mr Birt. “Unlike visitors to golf clubs, associate members hold broadly the same rights as full members other than holding no voting rights or the ability to stand for office.</p>
<p>“For Didsbury, an additional claim covering non-members’ green fees in the last four years will be submitted in due course.”</p>
<p>The ruling is set to anger proprietary, profit-making golf clubs, many of which have claimed there is not a level playing field, as they pay the full VAT on all memberships and green fees, as well as often a higher rate of corporation tax than private members’ golf clubs.</p>
<p>A spokesman for one said: “This is a crushing blow for the 800 proprietary golf clubs desperately trying to compete with the aggressive commercialisation of the green fee business by private members’ golf clubs who already unfairly benefit from CASC legislation and light touch regulation of their corporation tax returns on visitor income.</p>
<p>“The only positive thing to come from this ruling is that it must bring closer the day when HMRC finally recognises the unsustainable distortions caused by the different VAT treatment of private clubs and commercial golf operators, who are selling an identical product, and persuade them to remove the VAT exemptions from the whole sector in accordance with EU legislation against VAT exemptions causing distortions.</p>
<p>“With over 500 private clubs now openly competing online with commercial clubs for green fee business in order to subsidise their annual subscriptions, the present situation is untenable. If HMRC do not remove VAT exemptions from golf soon then the commercial golf sector is doomed and the tax base from this important industry will be further eroded.”</p>
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		<title>All proprietors read &#8211; Budget farce</title>
		<link>http://www.agco.org.uk/2012/04/all-proprietors-read-budge-farce/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vivien Saunders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well everyone &#8211; another farce in the life of VAT in sport. The chancellor has dealt with various VAT anomalies but failed to grasp sport. Here is a link to the Budget document. http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/budget2012/vat-con-4801.pdf  You will see that there is a consultation period on the VAT and I am attaching a letter I have sent [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well everyone &#8211; another farce in the life of VAT in sport. The chancellor has dealt with various VAT anomalies but failed to grasp sport. Here is a link to the Budget document.</p>
<div><a href="http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/budget2012/vat-con-4801.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/budget2012/vat-con-4801.pdf</a>  You will see that there is a consultation period on the VAT and I am attaching a letter I have sent to David Roberts at the VAT team.</div>
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<div>There has also been another absurdity. We have always warned that once they got to grips with the VAT members&#8217; clubs would start a membership scheme charging a small membership fee, charge a daily play fee and get VAT exemption on that. We did it Abbotsley with squash and it is of course acceptable. Didsbury Golf Club has managed to get this cleared by HMRC and had PKF acting for them. So now as well as getting VAT exempt memberships these clubs can adopt an associate member scheme and then get VAT exempt green fees. The member no longer needs any share in the business, a vote or any other member characteristics. This, of course, is quite different from what HMRC says on corporation tax. Presumably the green fee money will all just go into the members&#8217; pot of gold as membership fees and no VAT on them and, of course, no tax.</div>
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<div>Look on the Internet for Golf Club Management VAT Didsbury or on the PKF website.</div>
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<div>It is essential that you write to our friend Mr. Roberts at HMRC VAT team to protest. You can send a copy of my letter with your own addition or compliment slip.</div>
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<div>Please also write to your MP and send a copy of the VAT report to him/her.</div>
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<div>I am attaching the full version of that. As yet it doesn&#8217;t refer to Didsbury.</div>
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<div>On the Chipping Sodbury case I am hoping that Cambridge Meridian (my small club at Cambridge) will be joined in on the action and I am preparing a witness statement which will recite the farce of the VAT distortion since 1993. We still cannot get to the bottom of how much the EGU has put into this financially.</div>
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<div>I am seeing Liam Fox with Andrew Sutcliffe of Tickenham Golf Club, tomorrow, to see if we can explain the realities of &#8220;non-profit making&#8221; organisations to him. We gather that Sunningdale took £1.3 million of green fees in 2011 and are, of course, still non-profit making in the eyes of the Treasury! One of our owners in Cheshire is getting a meeting with George Osbourne to see if he can understand the issue and do something about it at last.</div>
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<div>Sorry I have been out of communication for two weeks with a hospital visit. the Budget and Didsbury has inspired me with renewed energy!</div>
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<div>You might also enjoy the article about Gary Pearce at Fulford from GCMA</div>
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<div>Viv</div>
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		<title>Meeting Monday 13th February 2012, 11.30 a.m.</title>
		<link>http://www.agco.org.uk/2012/01/meeting-monday-13th-february-2012-11-30-a-m/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vivien Saunders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[AGENDA Welcome and Registration from 11 a.m. Introduction 1. Update on the Chipping Sodbury Case, involvement, finance, parties involved 2. Bridport and West Dorset – what it means, the appeal 3. What if the cases succeed? Unjust enrichment, partial exemption 4. VAT – short overview of past – pre-1990, 1993 and all that, 1998-1999 and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>AGENDA</h3>
<p>Welcome and Registration from 11 a.m.</p>
<p>Introduction</p>
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<li>1. Update on the Chipping Sodbury Case, involvement, finance, parties involved</li>
<li>2. Bridport and West Dorset – what it means, the appeal</li>
<li>3. What if the cases succeed? Unjust enrichment, partial exemption</li>
<li>4. VAT – short overview of past – pre-1990, 1993 and all that, 1998-1999 and all that</li>
<li>5. Abbotsley success case with VAT and others</li>
<li>6. Subject to commercial influence – the 1999 farce</li>
<li>7. Fiscal Neutrality – recent cases</li>
<li>8. Reduced rate VAT – progress on lobbying and negotiation</li>
<li>9. Our Lobbying work – how we can all work together</li>
<li>10. Corporation Tax – History, A century of tax evasion, the worst offenders</li>
<li>11. Producing a level playing field with corporation tax – our action in 2012</li>
<li>12. How you can help</li>
<li>13. CASC – the nail in the coffin and the abuse</li>
<li>14. Affiliation fees to national and county governing bodies.</li>
<li>15. AGCO’S 2011-2012 Research and Presentation of Report</li>
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<p>Some of the above will be dealt with on hand-outs and possibly sent beforehand once major report is finalised. Questions and comments throughout. Joint working party approach.</p>
<p>If you haven’t yet booked your place and would like to attend please email us.<br />
Please also ascertain who is your local MP and any additional ones for your members.</p>
<p>It would be helpful if you could bring a couple of sheets of your headed notepaper with you to send out lobbying material and report direct from the meeting to your MP/MPs.</p>
<p>Vivien Saunders</p>
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		<title>Meeting for all proprietors of golf clubs, 13th February 2012</title>
		<link>http://www.agco.org.uk/2011/12/meeting-for-all-proprietors-of-golf-clubs-13th-february-2012/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vivien Saunders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am holding a meeting for all proprietors of golf clubs, through Association of Golf Course Owners, on Monday 13th February at Abbotsley at 11.30 a.m. I can then bring you all up to speed on where we are with VAT, Corporation Tax and the CASC regulations...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone. Happy Christmas and a prosperous new year.</p>
<p>I am holding a meeting for all proprietors of golf clubs, through Association of Golf Course Owners, on Monday 13th February at Abbotsley at 11.30 a.m. I can then bring you all up to speed on where we are with VAT, Corporation Tax and the CASC regulations. We (and I have five very capable and enthusiastic guys on board) are making huge progress. I sincerely believe that we will achieve a huge amount in 2012. As you know, as AGCO we do not ask for a membership fee, we don&#8217;t ask for any financial contribution. We have had some pledges for chipping in on barrister&#8217;s fees but so far I have not had to involve anyone in any costs. </p>
<p>There are three serious issues which we are addressing. The first is VAT. The second non-paid Corporation tax and thirdly CASC</p>
<p>We are making huge inroads into each of these.</p>
<p>Please could I ask all proprietary clubs on this list to contact all other proprietary clubs in your county to ensure that they are on our list with email addresses. If they have not had an email from me please ask them to email me on viv@viv.co.uk or pass their details on to me.</p>
<p>Secondly, can I please hear from any club which has much the same profile as Cambridge Meridian &#8211; my other club in Cambridge &#8211; single course/27 holes, started between 1987 and 1996, family or individual relatively small business, same ownership since 1994, charges VAT on subs, competes with clubs nearby who charge lower subs and also trade heavily in green fees. I am looking for around 30 clubs with the same sort of profile.</p>
<p>Please email me to let me know if you can attend on 13th February. No charge.Just bring own tea bag, enthusiasm and optimism of a great result for us all in 2012. I will email those who can attend and ask you to bring one or two bits of information if possible on the day.</p>
<p>I am also sending this out to all counties and asking secretaries to notify all proprietary clubs of the meeting.<br />
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Vivien Saunders OBE</p>
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		<title>Golf Owners. All to read please. Who knows head of HMRC?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vivien Saunders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone. I have a full report ready to go out to David Gauke at the Treasury and have had some other contact from parliament. One of our AGCO members who is an accountant has another brilliant lead on a VAT article and we are progressing well with correspondence with various big cheeses. One of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone.</p>
<p>I have a full report ready to go out to David Gauke at the Treasury and have had some other contact from parliament. One of our AGCO members who is an accountant has another brilliant lead on a VAT article and we are progressing well with correspondence with various big cheeses. One of our AGCO members has done a brilliant job on investigating huge member-owned clubs getting 80% rates relief of about £20,000 to £30,000 a year. Yet another tax scam. We are unearthing some brilliant fraud within our friends in the largest member-owned clubs. Now have found one with £1.2 million of green fees and not a penny of tax paid.</p>
<div>I had an email from one of our AGCO clubs where a member is head of HMRC. Can you email me again so we can get in touch. Also can I please hear from any club with good contacts as a constituent with Edward Davey (Kingston and Surbiton), George Osborne, David Gauke, Vince Cable.</p>
<p>Do rest assured I am ploughing on. There is a great deal going on in the background with tremendous help from many of you. Some of it is just too sensitive to send out widely over the Internet but do keep me in touch. I particularly want to hear from any of you who have local clubs who are massive commercial member-owned clubs with CASC status, or where there is huge green fee income. Just for your information some of the large CASC members clubs include Mill Hill, Huddersfield, Willingdon, Addington Palace, Potters Bar, Finchley, Old Fold Manor. All get corporation tax relief providing their trading turnover is less than £30,000 &#8211; and they should distinguish fully between money from members and outsiders. They are supposed to be affordable for the community! All can get their 80% rate relief which is presumably why they are doing it.</p>
<p>Affiliation fees. I have a query going forward with the EGU. I say that it is the men&#8217;s section that is affiliated to the EGU and not my business. My main point is that I don&#8217;t see why we should hand over affiliation fees for people we cannot collect from. It varies from county to county. In Cambridgeshire they are insistent that we pay our fees in February even though we cannot collect until April.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.agco.org.uk/contact-agco/" title="Contact AGCO">Please email me if you have the head of HMRC at your club.</a></span></strong></p>
<p>Please also send me any email contacts for local and national press who we can send the release to about the VAT 5% petition.</p>
<p>Happy and prosperous Christmas and 2012.</p>
<p>Viv</p>
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		<title>PRESS RELEASE &#8211; E-petition Launched for a Reduced Rate of 5% VAT for Sport&#8217;s Fans and Players</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vivien Saunders OBE, former British Women’s Open Golf Champion, has launched an e-petition on the Government website asking for a debate in Parliament to get a 5% reduced rate of VAT for playing and watching sport. The e-petition is at http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/12244 or can be found by searching Google e-petitions and then VAT sport.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivien Saunders OBE, former British Women’s Open Golf Champion, has launched an e-petition on the Government website asking for a debate in Parliament to get a 5% reduced rate of VAT for playing and watching sport. The e-petition is at <a href="http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/12244">http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/12244</a> or can be found by searching Google e-petitions and then VAT sport.</p>
<p>The European Union VAT rules allow a reduced rate of VAT for 18 types of goods and services. Two of these are admission to sports events and playing sport. Sixteen other EU countries have adopted Reduced Rate VAT for sport since 2006. The UK Governments have failed to do so. The Reduced Rate varies from country to country. In Luxembourg it is 3%; in Ireland 9%. In the UK it is 5%.</p>
<p>We need 100,000 e-signatures on the petition to force a debate in Parliament.</p>
<p>Who would benefit? All sports fans paying for admission to major sports events – football, rugby, cricket and, of course, the Open Golf Championship and Wimbledon tennis.</p>
<p>If the 5% rate is adopted it would, for example, cut the cost of an £80 ticket to £70 – the price band for tickets to many of these sports.</p>
<p>Vivien – “Major sports organisations, including the Olympics, have already set and advertised their prices for 2012. But long term we would see these price cuts”.</p>
<p>Secondly, it would help cut the costs of playing sport – fitness centres, golf green fees, swimming and membership of commercial and public golf and tennis clubs.</p>
<p>Vivien – “The only people who don’t pay VAT on sport at present are members of member-owned clubs – private golf clubs and tennis clubs. Put simply, the man in the street pays VAT on his sport; the members of the country’s smartest golf clubs don’t!”</p>
<p>Vivien Saunders, “In sport there has been a real distortion of the way sportsmen pay for their sport. Members of member-owned sports clubs have VAT exempt subs and don’t pay VAT. That’s the really wealthy golf and tennis clubs – Sunningdale, Roehampton and so on. Those who belong to commercial fitness centres – David Lloyd or Virgin Active – or who pay for their sport on a daily basis – the gym, swimming, golf – pay 20% VAT on their sport.</p>
<p>“The stupidest of all is golf; members of privately owned clubs, like Royal St. George’s in Kent, where they staged the 2011 Open Championship, have VAT exempt golf memberships. Members at Prince’s Golf Club, just across their boundary fence, and not quite as posh, have to pay 20% VAT because the members don’t own it.”</p>
<p>The people who will really benefit from a 5% rate are the sports fans who can look forward to cheaper ticket prices and the “man in the street” who pays for his sport on a daily basis.</p>
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<p>For further information please contact:</p>
<p>Vivien Saunders OBE<br />
Association of Golf Course Owners<br />
Abbotsley Golf Club,<br />
St. Neots, Cambridgeshire PE19 6XN<br />
<a href="http://www.agco.org.uk">www.agco.org.uk</a><br />
Email: <a href="mailto:viv@agco.org.uk">viv@agco.org.uk</a>   Tel: 07956 628338</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abbotsley.com">www.abbotsley.com</a></p>
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		<title>AGCO Letter to David Gauke MP, Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Gauke MP, Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury, HM Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Parade, London SW1A 0AA August 19th 2011 Dear Mr. Gauke, Taxation of Golf Clubs As chairman of the Association of Golf Course Owners I have been passed letters you have sent to Members of Parliament whose constituents have raised their considerable concerns over [...]]]></description>
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David Gauke MP,<br />
Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury,<br />
HM Treasury,<br />
1 Horse Guards Parade,<br />
London SW1A 0AA</p>
<p>August 19<sup>th</sup> 2011</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Gauke,</p>
<p>Taxation of Golf Clubs</p>
<p>As chairman of the Association of Golf Course Owners I have been passed letters you have sent to Members of Parliament whose constituents have raised their considerable concerns over the VAT treatment of proprietary golf clubs and the Corporation Tax treatment of member-owned clubs. Those clubs have asked me to respond to you and I am also sending a copy of this letter to the Rt. Hon. Danny Alexander MP, to our association’s constituency MP, Jonathan Djanogly, and to Edward Davey, MP for Kingston upon Thames, who is very well versed about this issue.</p>
<p>The situation on VAT is complex and we have been battling this since 1993. I appreciate that you have only been an MP for a comparatively short time and I would urge you to look at the history of the problem. There are some 900 proprietary golf clubs in England plus a smaller number in Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Of these we would estimate that some 600 face possible bankruptcy or severe financial difficulties as a result of the UK Government’s steadfast refusal to address the issues. Problems are blamed on Article 13 of the Sixth Directive. In reality the Conservatives created the mess 20 years ago and Labour made it worse in 1999. As a body we have now had enough; if the Bridport case is not successfully appealed it will be the kiss of death to most small proprietary golf clubs and we do not deserve it.</p>
<p>As you are new to this game let me put you in the picture. The UK Government has had a disastrous approach to the taxation of sport for over 20 years.</p>
<ol>
<li>The UK Government withdrew zero rating for the construction of sports facilities in 1989. They could have kept zero rating and it was not an EU requirement to withdraw it. Probably it cannot now be restored. This has a huge bearing on the VAT treatment of golf clubs</li>
<li>The UK’s basic obligation was to exempt sports subscriptions to non-profit making bodies – Article 13A(1)(m)</li>
<li>The UK could have made the exemption conditional on it not being likely to create distortion of competition – Article 13A(2)(a), fourth indent.</li>
<li>The UK Government failed to consider the distortion and failed to enact any national law to solve this. AGCO has a wealth of correspondence from 1993 protesting about the distortion that would arise – to Michael Portillo, when he was Chief Secretary to the Treasury,  to Customs and Excise and numerous constituency MPs. The Conservative Government took no notice and allowed the distortion to arise.</li>
<li>Through the mid 1990’s AGCO clubs tried to level the playing field and leased or licensed their golf clubs to their members. This would have allowed their members to enjoy VAT exempt golf and enable proprietary clubs to compete on a level playing field with member-owned clubs. You should be aware that the English Golf Union (EGU) stipulated that there must be a members’ club at any proprietary club, so this was not unreasonable. Clubs at Abbotsley (my club) and Chobham in Surrey successfully defeated Customs and Excise when they challenged us. (LON/96/148) and (LON/96/833)</li>
<li>Customs and Excise/Labour Government fought back with the VAT (Sports, Sports Competitions and Physical Education) Order 1999. The whole purpose of this piece of delegated legislation was to attempt to ensure that proprietary golf clubs could not license their golf courses to their members. It brought in a phrase “subject to commercial influence”. It took 2 years to draft this legislation because the governing bodies of golf and smart member-owned clubs suddenly realised that they too might get caught in the VAT net. Please would you take time to read the report of the Standing Committee meeting of 26<sup>th</sup> October 1999. It will show you the protests made by Conservative and Liberal Democrat MP’s to this legislation, to the on-going distortion and their objection to the “subject to commercial influence” nonsense. Edward Davey and Oliver Letwin were particularly vocal in defence of proprietary clubs. Dawn Primarolo (as Labour’s Paymaster General) concluded by saying, “Our objective is to reduce the distortion caused by the current VAT treatment and the difference between commercial and non-profit-making clubs”.</li>
<li>Twelve years later and with a change of government still nothing has been done. It would be unreasonable not to familiarise yourself with that debate from October 1999 now that the ball seems to be in your court. You will see from that debate that Dawn Primarolo conceded to Oliver Letwin that she had not consulted with AGCO but they had listened to golf’s governing bodies.</li>
<li>You should be aware that when 700 or so new proprietary golf clubs were built in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s they, as proprietary clubs, were not allowed to affiliate to the EGU. UK Sport and Sport England recognise the EGU as the governing body of golf in England and listen to them. A proprietary club could not affiliate in itself to the EGU but had to have a separate club of its members, formed by its members, with designated rules, committees and officials. It is those members’ clubs that affiliate to the EGU. As such the EGU does not represent proprietary clubs per se. Nor do golf’s other governing bodies.</li>
<li>Now proprietary clubs are faced with the possibility of the Bridport case, if not successfully appealed, giving a massive tax windfall of some £300 million to member-owned clubs. The Scottish Golf Union and the Golf Club Managers’ Association (both of whom successfully bend the ear of HMRC on behalf of member-owned clubs) have voiced their enthusiasm for this possible tax windfall, without any concept that it will be the kiss of death to most proprietary clubs. Had the Conservative Government taken up the issue of distortion in 1993 when AGCO first flagged it up, and had Labour listened to our protests in 1999, the taxpayer wouldn’t be facing the possibility of this £300 million hand-out.</li>
<li>We say that the UK Governments have ignored the underlying principle for applying the exemptions which in the old Article 13 and in the more recent Article 131 from COUNCIL DIRECTIVE 2006/112/EC quite clearly say “ ….. which the Member States shall lay down for the purposes of ensuring the correct and straightforward application of the exemptions and preventing any possible evasion, avoidance or abuse.” You should be aware that the “subject to commercial influence” clause from the 1999 legislation is so absurd that a club like the Berkshire Golf Club Ltd in Ascot has taken £8.3 million in green fees from visitors since that absurd piece of legislation and is still considered not to be “subject to commercial influence”. In 2009 they took £850,000 of visitors’ fees. This is more than the total turnover of most small proprietary clubs. Their members still enjoy VAT exempt membership subscriptions. Ours don’t.  In your own constituency, Moor Park Golf Club in Rickmansworth takes some £500,000 a year in visitors’ green fees, sells itself out for all manner of golfing and other commercial events and is still considered not to be “subject to commercial influence”. Their members still enjoy VAT exempt membership subscriptions. And then there is Royal St. George’s Golf Club in Kent, which hosted the 2011 Open Championship. They, like Sunningdale Golf Club in Ascot, charge £300 for a day’s golf. The absurdity of VAT legislation and the mess both Governments have permitted doesn’t categorize them as “subject to commercial influence”.</li>
<li>The original wording of Article 13 gave the UK Government power to make the exemptions for sport subject to the condition of not producing distortion. It was supposedly optional in VAT law, though perhaps mandatory in competition law. That I don’t know. The UK Government didn’t take up the option to avoid distortion – to AGCO clubs’ detriment.</li>
<li>The more recent Article 131 and 132 repeat the exemptions and the conditions. Perhaps the UK Government can now admit that it has seen the light of day and distortion is a problem and withdraw the exemption based on the condition (d).</li>
<li>What does appear to have changed is that the Preamble to the whole document clearly recites at (4) that regulations should not distort conditions of competitions. The rest of the Preamble is quite firm on stamping out distortion. It appears that it is no longer just an option to stop distortion but that it is now mandatory and has been since 2006 and the UK Government is still not applying VAT law to sports clubs correctly.</li>
<li>Article 98 sets out quite clearly that member states can apply the reduced rate of VAT to certain goods or services set out in Annex III.  The reduced rate of VAT in the UK is 5%. As you know Annex III includes at item (13) admission to sporting events and at (14) use of sporting facilities. The following 16 countries, according to the EU, have applied their reduced rate to one or both of these sporting activities – Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark (exempt), Germany, Greece, Spain, Ireland, Italy, Cyprus, Luxembourg (super-reduced at 3%), Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Slovenia, Finland and Sweden.</li>
<li>The UK Government has chosen not to apply this reduced rate of 5%. They could have done this in 2006 and at least shown some concessions to the distortion issue. The present VAT legislation from Europe suggests that there is a duty to stop distortion internally within member states and between member states. The clubs AGCO represents in Northern Ireland are now faced with distortion vis-à-vis member-owned clubs in Northern Ireland whose members enjoy VAT exempt subscriptions and proprietary clubs across the border enjoying the reduced VAT rate of 9%. If that isn’t distortion of competition, what is?</li>
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<p>SUGGESTED SOLUTION ON VAT – THE REDUCED RATE</p>
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<li>AGCO has now posted an e-petition on the Government website asking for support to a 5% reduced VAT rate for admission to sports events and use of sporting facilities. As soon as this is approved we will be publicising it to football supporters’ clubs (including the club you support at Ipswich) and hoping for a quick 100,000 signatures to get this debated in Parliament. Walton Heath Golf Club near Epsom gives a £700 reduction in membership fees to Members of Parliament. Only one, Labour’s John Cruddas, seems to declare this. Walton Heath took £625,000 in visitors’ green fees in 2010. That is greater than the turnover of many small proprietary clubs. The membership fees there are, of course, exempt from VAT. It should be a lively debate with MPs having to declare their interests and membership of such clubs! No doubt we can get a host of stars from all sports to support the reduction to 5% on admission prices to sports events – and we can climb in on the back of it!</li>
<li>We say that the reduced rate will effectively eliminate the distortion between golf clubs which we say the Government is obliged to do. It won’t compensate for the past but it will protect us in the future.</li>
<li>If we have to fight our corner with the assistance of football clubs and this results in a reduced rate of 5% on ticket prices to football (and other sports) then so be it! EU legislation is clear. The Government has power to do this and doesn’t need authority from Europe.</li>
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<p>SUGGESTED SOLUTION ON VAT – SUBJECT TO COMMERCIAL INFLUENCE</p>
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<li>The “subject to commercial influence” phrase from the 1999 VAT Sports Order was dealt with in a statutory instrument. Presumably it would therefore be quite possible for the Government to redraft that in a similar statutory instrument, now that there is the realisation that clubs like the Berkshire, with £8.3 million of visitor fees since 1999, are absurdly NOT considered “subject to commercial influence”.</li>
<li>Our suggestion is that the UK Government follows the model used by the American Revenue Service in the way they tax country clubs and other not-for-profit organisations. Their model is simple in principle. If a country club (or other not-for-profit body) takes more than 15% of its revenue from non-members (other than rent and investments – on which there are other limits) they lose their not-for-profit status. There are clear rules to deal with the schemes and scams country clubs are likely to use to circumvent this principle. That model is presumably to achieve payment of tax.</li>
<li>The American model means that if a visitor goes to a country club they can effectively only go as a guest of a member and it is virtually impossible for outsiders to spend money. That is how it should be for our supposedly mutual trading golf member-owned clubs in the UK</li>
<li>AGCO suggests that we adopt a similar model but set a percentage of 10%, i.e. if 10% or more of revenue is brought into a (golf) club from non-members the club is considered to be “subject to commercial influence” – because quite clearly, using any reasonable interpretation of the phrase, that is what it is.</li>
<li>The American 15% rate is presumably about bringing in tax revenue. Our suggestion of 10% is to stop the distortion, but the model from America is there.</li>
<li>Clubs would have two options – either continue to take in money from outsiders, because of their commercial aims and influence, and lose their VAT exemption, or shut the doors to all but a small amount of incidental outsiders’ spending and keep their VAT exemptions. AGCO members would be content with that, combined with the reduced rate.</li>
<li>Would it cause hardship to member-owned clubs? No, of course it would not. You will see from the accounts of the Berkshire Golf Club that they actually say they make a loss on trading from non-members. Quite how, one cannot imagine, but that is what they say. As we cannot find a single member-owned club that declares it makes a profit from non-members and pays any tax, we must assume that if they stopped trading with outsiders it would not cause difficulty.</li>
<li>It would seem that bringing in a 10% rule would comply with the EU rules that VAT should be straightforward. The present “subject to commercial influence” phrase is a nonsense and clearly not straightforward.</li>
<li>Can the UK Government do it? Seemingly as they brought in the VAT Sports Order in 1999 as delegated legislation and a statutory instrument it should be possible to do this.</li>
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<p>CORPORATION TAX</p>
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<li>You say in your letters that HMRC has various manuals which show how to tax golf clubs and you don’t appear to understand that there is a problem with Corporation Tax. Put very simply we have yet to find any member-owned golf club which pays tax on its trading income. The decision in Carlisle and Silloth is 100 years old. It is still the law. It makes clear that clubs should pay corporation tax/income tax on visitors’ fees (from strangers) and not members’ guests (paid by member playing with member). The decision and follow up decisions suggested that a member’s guest is a kind of temporary member on which tax is not payable.</li>
<li>There is no other industry where there are so many manuals referring to how HMRC should tax taxpayers. The treatment of golf clubs is unique. The ordinary tax rules are there for all taxpayers, with the allowable expenses being what is wholly and exclusively incurred in earning the income or where there is a reasonable duality of expenses.</li>
<li>In our view the reason for these various manuals about taxing golf clubs (and not other industries) is the pressure from member-owned golf clubs and golf’s governing bodies to ensure that leading clubs would NOT pay any tax. I am enclosing with this letter a publicity document from Hillier Hopkins LLP, a firm of accountants in your constituency, in which they proudly proclaim that they act for over 30 clubs and manage to negotiate with HMRC so that the clubs are either classified as mutual trading or by using Hiller Hopkins method and calculations don’t pay any tax.  That is what it is all about. They say they act and advise the Golf Club Managers’ Association. Indeed they probably do. We have correspondence with the Inland Revenue Mutual Trading Department from the mid 1990’s in which The Inland Revenue positively found ways NOT to have to tax the great and good of golf. Again we say that golf’s governing bodies only acted for member-owned and did whatever they could to ensure they avoided paying tax.</li>
<li>It should be absolutely clear to anyone that a club like the Berkshire Golf Club Ltd with £850,000 of visitors’ fees in 2009 should be paying tax. I appreciate that you cannot discuss the affairs of taxpayers with us. But it is clear that they don’t pay tax. It is clear that no member-owned club pays tax on green fees. The expenses of running a golf course are there for the members. The true cost of putting a visitor on the golf course is 50 pence – 25 pence for the green fee ticket and 25 pence for the scorecard. A small percentage might be paid to the professional for collecting the fees. In reality HMRC has tried to assess the expenses of having visitors on a golf course based on the rounds of golf played by members and the rounds played by visitors.  This was put forward by golf’s governing bodies to ensure their clubs did not get caught for tax. Reasonably one might assume that 5000 rounds are played by visitors to 25,000 played by members. HMRC concedes in their manuals that golf clubs in effect fabricate the rounds of golf members play and have no records. Even so it would mean that one sixth of the costs of running the course might be offset against green fees. Still they avoid tax.</li>
<li>Other clubs simply budget for the amount of green fees they are likely to take during the year, reduce the necessary members’ subscription to allow for this subsidy, then plead to HMRC that they have no money left and still pay no tax. HMRC bend over backwards to forgive them the tax they owe.</li>
<li>The reality is that no one in the Government or HMRC is prepared to tax our competitors. You cannot give a tax advantage to one taxpayer (unfairly) without prejudicing another.</li>
<li>We assess that member-owned golf clubs take some £200 million a year in visitors fees; we assess that not one penny in tax on this has been paid. Bearing in mind the figures that these clubs will now produce in clawing back VAT on green fees (if the Bridport case is not successfully appealed) it should be easy to see what their visitor income has been. The simple question is then to ask why tax has not been paid on these green fees. They are happy to declare them now to get VAT back but weren’t happy to declare them to pay Corporation Tax.</li>
<li>If dealt with correctly HMRC could recover more in Corporation Tax on undeclared visitor fees than you have to pay out in VAT if Bridport succeed.</li>
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<p>WHO TO INVESTIGATE</p>
<p>Members of Parliament get their cheap subscription at Walton Heath Golf Club in Surrey. That club is one of the biggest clubs which is clearly “subject to commercial influence” (but still enjoying VAT exempt membership subs).  It is one of the highest earners on visitors’ fees (the £625,000 described in their accounts as temporary members) with no tax paid. No doubt they will be one of the top recipients for repayment of VAT if Bridport is not successfully appealed. It would seem that that club is the ideal one to investigate for a really full understanding of the tax and VAT implications involved. Presumably no Member of Parliament enjoying membership there could condone the way in which the club pays no tax and the members pay no VAT.</p>
<p>Perhaps it would be worth investigating all member-owned golf clubs for which Hillier Hopkins are their accountants/auditors to ascertain just how their clients avoid paying tax.</p>
<p>Here is what Hillier Hopkins say, “We act for many golf clubs regarding their corporate taxes and have been involved in many negotiations with HMRC regarding taxable status. For members’ clubs we have in almost all cases been able to either agree mutual trading status or a profit calculation method which reduces taxable income to zero. We have been able to advise on tax strategies going forward to main than status.”</p>
<p>“Robert Twydle [of Hillier Hopkins] is an adviser to the Golf Club Mangers’ Association”.</p>
<p>Yes, that is what it is all about. Negotiations , the old boy network and forgiving influential golf club members. Here you have it in writing from their accountant!</p>
<p>WHAT POLITICIANS HAD TO SAY ON THIS</p>
<p>I trust you will read the minutes of the First Standing Committee of 26<sup>th</sup> October 1999 which dealt with the VAT Sports Order and this tax disaster. That was when Labour was in power.</p>
<ul>
<li>Oliver Letwin to Dawn Primarolo (as Paymaster General)</li>
</ul>
<p>“I prophesy that unless the Paymaster General is promoted, as we hope, to an even grander position in the near future, she will still be dealing with the issue in two, three or more years’ time – if the present Government by some mischance remains in power.”</p>
<ul>
<li>Edward Davey – Liberal Democrat MP for Kingston-on-Thames</li>
</ul>
<p>“Proprietary golf clubs need the support of the House, because, as the Committee must acknowledge, VAT law discriminates against them. I hope that the Minister will admit that to the Committee and explain how she proposes to deliver more support to golf clubs and proprietary entrepreneurs.”</p>
<p>Well there we are. Mr. Letwin and Mr. Davey are now members of the Coalition Government. Nothing has changed and you are apparently the Minister who has taken over the responsibility for correcting this mess.</p>
<p>It may not be the most important thing on your agenda or on the Government’s agenda. But it is the most important thing on the agenda of AGCO golf club owners, many of whom have fought off bankruptcy and closure because of this thoroughly rotten distortion.</p>
<p>I would welcome a meaningful response from you and trust you will research this matter fully before, as I hope, our e-petition forces a debate in Parliament.</p>
<p>Yours sincerely,</p>
<p>Vivien Saunders OBE PhD LLM MSc FCMI (Solicitor – retired)
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		<title>Campaign Results &#8211; Great News &#8211; Bridport to be appealed</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done to the many golf clubs that have written to HMRC and their MPs to get the Bridport decision appealed. Success – it is being appealed. Undoubtedly the pressure we put on them brought results. One club sent in a petition signed by over 400 members. Others have had discussions with MP’s, many of whom are new in Parliament and hadn’t previously realised the problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done to the many golf clubs that have written to HMRC and their MPs to get the Bridport decision appealed. Success – it is being appealed. Undoubtedly the pressure we put on them brought results. One club sent in a petition signed by over 400 members. Others have had discussions with MP’s, many of whom are new in Parliament and hadn’t previously realised the problem.</p>
<p>It has bought AGCO time for further discussions and lobbying. For those who have received replies from MPs most will have had a copy of a letter from David Gauke MP, the Exchequer Treasury Secretary. He is the MP in charge of the policy on VAT and <a title="Letter to David Gauke MP, Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury" href="http://www.agco.org.uk/2011/08/letter-to-david-gauke-mp-exchequer-secretary-to-the-treasury/">I am attaching a letter to him</a>.</p>
<p><strong>VAT Reduced Rate – our e-petition<br />
</strong>There are now 16 countries in the EU that have adopted the reduced VAT rate permitted for sports. For VAT enthusiasts it is in the new Article 98, Annex III. It allows the reduced rate on admission to sports events, section (13) and use of sports facilities, section (14). The reduced VAT rate in the UK is 5%.</p>
<p>AGCO has put up an e-petition to the UK Government and hope to hear that it has been accepted. This suggests the UK Government adopts the 5% rate for watching sport and playing sport. We need as many golfers as possible to sign the e-petition when it goes live. We need to get details of the e-petition to football clubs. Their fans pay 20% VAT on their tickets. We need their fans to sign the e-petition and get the whole VAT in sport issue debated in Parliament. 100,000 signatures should force a debate.</p>
<p>As we have already flagged up, MPs get a £700 reduction in subscriptions to Walton Heath Golf Club where they enjoy VAT exempt subs (despite the club’s £625,000 of green fee income). Should be a lively debate!</p>
<p>We have had great response from members of the House of Lords &#8211; cricketing great, Baroness Rachael Heyhoe Flint, and former Minister of Sport, Lord Colin Moynihan. Both obviously have a very good grasp of the different VAT treatment of sport across the industry.</p>
<p><strong>Golf Club Managers’ Association</strong><br />
Many club owners have had an email from Keith Lloyd from the GCMA registering the bad news of the Bridport case being appealed. As AGCO clubs have registered with Keith – it isn’t bad news. It is fantastic news. Some clubs have asked why proprietary clubs should continue to join and support the GCMA. As we have said for years, the GCMA simply supports member-owned clubs and has no concept of the position of proprietary clubs. The Scottish Golf Union has shown their support for Bridport – again with no understanding of the distortion. The English Golf Union quickly back-tracked on a one-sided comment about Bridport. We are convinced the EGU will fully support our campaign for the 5% rate. It won’t cure distortion but it will give some relief.</p>
<p><strong>Counsel’s Opinion<br />
</strong>We have now received support with clubs pledging financial support for obtaining counsel’s opinion from Pump Court Tax Chambers. Vivien Saunders is currently trying to finish those instructions. They will accept instructions from AGCO without having the additional expense of going through a firm of solicitors or accountants. We will send out the draft instructions to those pledging financial support.</p>
<p><strong>Club Members<br />
</strong>Members of one Surrey club (not Wentworth) who collectively pay over £1 million a year in VAT on their subscriptions are on board with our campaign – even though their owners haven’t come on board with the campaign. We are hoping for financial support for counsel’s opinion and any other professional fees from clubs like that. They are just as prejudiced by the VAT  nonsense as we are.</p>
<p><strong>VAT Reduced Rate<br />
</strong>The old Article 13 of the Sixth Directive is now embodied in the Council Directive 2006/112/EC on the common system of Value Added Tax. The preamble to that (that’s the Whereas part!) clearly records at (4) that it there should not be distortion of competition, whether at national level or community level. Other parts of the preamble make it clear that distortion should be stamped out.</p>
<p>Articles 131 and 132 repeat the old Article 13 and the exemptions for services closely linked to sport.</p>
<p>Article 98 provides that Member States can apply their own reduced rate to various goods and services set out in Annex III. These include at (13) admission to sports events and (14) use of sporting facilities. The reduced VAT rate in the UK is 5%.</p>
<p>Sixteen countries in the EU have adopted the reduced rate of VAT on either admission to sports events or use of sporting facilities. Their reduced VAT rate is not all the same. Luxembourg, for example, has a super reduced VAT rate of 3%; Ireland 9%.</p>
<p>The sixteen countries with reduced VAT rate for sport – as far as we can see from EU documents – are Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark (exempt), Germany, Greece, Spain, Ireland, Italy, Cyprus, Luxembourg (super-reduced at 3%), Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Slovenia, Finland and Sweden.</p>
<p>For our AGCO friends in Northern Ireland they not only have to compete with the member-owned clubs and their exempt subscriptions and the proprietary clubs across the border with 9% VAT. We have put this to David Gauke MP of the Treasury.</p>
<p>As you know full exemption from VAT would give problems of partial exemption in reclaiming VAT. Another problem is that the UK Government fouled up in 1989 when they took away the zero rating for building sports facilities – and probably with EU regulations can’t restore it. (Counsel can tell us that.)</p>
<p><strong>Doing the Calculations<br />
</strong>Having a reduced VAT rate of 5% wouldn’t solve the distortion of the last 20 years but it would be far better going forward. In essence, as all AGCO owners know, you have to add on 20% VAT. You charge to the customer is £100 plus VAT of £20. When you take VAT off an all-inclusive price the VAT  is 20/120, i.e. a sixth. Simplistically if you have £300,000 of golf fees your VAT out of this is £50,000. From £600,000 it is £100,000.</p>
<p>With a reduced VAT rate of 5% the charge would be £100 plus VAT of £5. When you take VAT of an all-inclusive price the VAT rate is 5/105 i.e. 1/21. That’s roughly £14,300 VAT out of £300,000 and £28,500 from £600,000. Potentially it’s a huge saving – giving opportunity to reduce subscriptions and compete – or to pay over less VAT.</p>
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